love lamb shanks love you Anderson thank you very much I am Chris Cuomo welcome to prime time breaking news the president is ramping up his border war with Mexico now threatening tariffs on all Mexican goods if it does not step up enforcement of illegal immigration does this hurt Mexico or us we have a new senior advisor to the re-election campaign for the president here tonight kimberly guilfoyle joins us happy to have her and we also have a man who wants to unseat the president with us tonight he blames this president for the border crisis and just rolled out his new anti Trump immigration plan that man is believing on a date again with our exclusive ahead and Washington's newest Odd Couple Ted Cruz and AOC teaming up I think this is the best news for you and me in a long time details ahead it's time to test let's get after it all right this is the news the president is warning Mexico tonight you will have a 5% tariff per month on all goods entering the United States unless you start getting after illegal immigration to the White House's satisfaction okay and remember he vows a number hike equal to the initial 5% each month this is heavy stuff a dramatic escalation question is what's the cell why is this good for us and not bad for us as consumers we have his new 2020 senior campaign advisor here tonight kimberly guilfoyle good to have you here congratulations on the new gig no pressure no pressure yeah all right so help me understand this because what's the concern with tariffs well we know this that they get passed on the importer to the consumer so you wind up hitting us to punish them what's the sell well so when you think about it the president campaigned very heavily on this in terms of the immigration crisis and people have generally agreed this is an intractable problem but it really has reached a crisis point you even have New York Times saying that we have a crisis at the southern border and why wouldn't in Mexico is one of our economic partners bear some of the responsibility have some skin in the game why is it always that the United States is disproportionately affected with other people not doing their fair share this is in sound keeping with the president's policy of being tough on immigration border security really securing it and we don't have these porous borders where people are coming over there's human trafficking there's drugs coming in the inter drug epidemic crime and having worked as a prosecutor for many years in San Francisco which is a sanctuary city and in Los Angeles I saw all too well the real problem of people coming in criminal recidivists with records multiple times deported and coming back in and committing crimes like we saw with Kate Steinle in San Francisco no question it's real we both know that if you're worried about criminality the place to start isn't with illegal entrance but there's no question there are criminals among them and recidivists I don't think it's the heart of the problem but that takes us to what the solution is same way we still wind up in the same place I get going after Mexico we both know they're the weaker partner right they don't have the capabilities that the United States do but a lot of people come through their way yesterday was one of the biggest round ups of people they had no good has to change kids are going to be in bad trouble we've had six pass who knows what's going to happen absolutely like young girls 10 13 years available automatically checked for rape or pregnancy because of what's happening if they can be but they're understaffed they're begging Congress they're begging the White House for help down there DHS CBP they're not getting the help that they want big problem I don't get this solution because what happens now you put the tariffs Mexico says fine but I pay them right because I'm the consumer and now you've got the trade deal with Mexico what if they push back what if it you know what if it threatens the trade deal is this a great point because why are the Democrats stonewalling and not allowing this to come to a vote this is the problem what we're seeing the president repeatedly over and over again it says partner with me let's work on this problem this crisis of immigration at the southern border we can all agree that there's situation that needs to be addressed the president has tried and tried again but now he needs to do something different and this is very consistent with what he said he was going to do Mexico you're going to have to do your fair share we're no longer you have the American taxpayer who works very hard for their paycheck every day shoulder the burden of your gross irresponsibility at the border allowing these people to come over when they go to trial why not go to the triangle and say let me help you people let me help you with the conditions that are making your people come to us because I don't believe their religion asylum claims I think their economic claims let me help you he said he wanted to pull aid what that only make it worse no I don't think so because it's a problem you have the United States over and over again doing the same thing which is a definition of insanity if you expect a different result we keep rewarding people who aren't working honestly as our partners in the United say say okay this country has a problem they're coming over they're not doing anything Chris it's only getting worse to secure the border to prevent people coming in from South America we don't get rich either though well I'll tell you what but nevertheless they're still getting help from us and I don't think it's unreasonable the American people want the president to honor his promises about border security which relates directly to national security he would not be doing his job if he didn't get tough with it and let's see if they understand because this is not a man who says he's gonna do something and not do it he will false fulfill this promise it's gonna be 5% it's gonna have an escalator if they don't take it seriously I think he's gonna get their attention just like he has with China tariffs work if you have patience at the plate well we'll see because they get passed off on to the consumer that's the problem you see what's happening with the farmers but look time will tell it's a little bit of tough love there may be some growing pains with this but it really has reached a crisis point where he has to say but it is a crisis he's imposing with the tariff but again as you said time will tell he'll be measured in the election the crisis is because of illegal immigration coming over Mexico because guess what tariffs worked and he's employing a similar idea and proposal that he has with China we haven't seen we haven't seen this deal happen in China but again third time time will tell he'll be tested in the election the impeachment situation let me ask something for the position of the campaign does the campaign accept the proposition that Russia interfered in the 2016 election and we must stop them from doing it in 2020 well there was some indication that there was facebook attempts at cetera to interfere with the election right but again what did we find specifically that there was so much money spent millions and millions of dollars two years on an investigation that yielded no results despite the bias that was inherent in it it was a result Russian interference happened it was pernicious as it was widespread it is contagious and widespread there's been no finding a determination that it had an impact whatsoever on the United States election should that type of thing to be taken seriously if it's happening and invested if it's work do you think it happened you don't think of that well I'm reading the reports on it that they say there was attempts with Facebook etc etc do I think it was like widespread or pernicious no I do not do I think that it had an impact on the 2016 election no do I think then the Democrats wish that it did so they can have another excuse to say why President Trump is in the Oval Office I see no struction no collusion and now saying this chart there's gonna be you know I get the talking point but you know no no that is true no I do know there was collusion there was no criminal conspiracy thank God the president is not a traitor he wasn't a foreign agent there's no proof of any of them thank God waste of the taxpayers money no but there was collusion people on that campaign did don't they knew they shouldn't have done and they lied about where was there any finding that there was any kind of insufficient evidence no evidence whatsoever can't afford giving the polling to a guy with connection of Russian Intel stupid move taking that meeting in Trump Tower stupid move obstruction or collusion well no that is pollution if it's not a crime but it is robert muller by the way who overstepped his bounds by being going forward and making that statement had found any evidence of the prosecutors job as you know i'm a former prosecutor is to determine if there is sufficient evidence that a crime has been committed and that that individual is guilty of that prosecute or not that since you found no evidence to support that and in fact couldn't process went a step further and release the whole report even one mother was saying just released certain portions of it so there has been transparency they have put up with all kinds of witch hunts an investigation here they didn't like the outcome of the 21 we're trying to show that the strong economy can result as you know you had come from family of politics strong economy incumbents get reelected they just want to see the president remain in the oval office the democrats and many people in the media well I don't know what he registered ads but I do know what he did in sessions wasn't a Democrat I do know what he did and overstepping his bounds and let me taste me a member in the Kenneth Starr report and he did the investigation I'm bill cruising 11 times he used the word guilty right did you hear Robert Muller ever used those words no you ever never got the president in the chair how was he going to get him on obstruction when one he's got guidance not to indict a sitting president and to the one guy at the center of it wouldn't answers know 2,300 subpoenas president didn't give massage agents this was an investigation that went on and officers and they Watergate determined I'll come they didn't get it he didn't give him anything out of this award no he can't be part of an anti-trump situation another lifelong part of an anti-trump situation or not but I do know as a prosecutor that he overstepped his bounds you're trying to find out something happen with the trial appease the Democrats who are upset because they were hoping that he was going to be you know Santa Claus use the term put the president out of God he's an independent broker he always has been everybody really because in fact you ever slept his mouth when he made the statement I think he did it though in your favor because he's supposed to say prosecutor decline but he can't because his hands are tied so he wants to explain what he does and he says I can't do this I'm not even gonna say if I found criminal activity because I don't want to be unfair to the president cuz he won't have his day in court but I can't say he didn't do anything wrong I can't exactly I thought he bent over backwards to be failing bar okay said specifically that Muller could have reached a conclusion and not violated DOJ policy that I quote make Charlie so my reasoning president if you have the evidence to support it you would have read it in the report it wasn't oh she has five different counts of obstruction that have significant nothing against the president there is no finer conclusion that the president there is no conclusion as he said he couldn't want to leave it to Congress and now we're going to see what they do well guess what and additionally as William bar said that the DOJ and the investigations that they do do not serve as an adjunct to Congress true they just want a different outcome so now they're saying there's Muller cabinets and the cast of characters running trying to unseat President Trump this is what they're raising money on impeachment impeachment I'm not raising money on your campaign put out a put his big saying they want to impeach your president give us money well guess what the people that supported the President of the United States believe in him and they've seen that in fact despite this president being completely cooperative he didn't see anything out there but you didn't answer a single question on obstruction the president was totally transparent and cooperated with this investigation if he didn't support you and did not there is no evidence of it because he didn't talk to them there is no evidence of the obstruction there are there's a lot of evidence of it they didn't get any directly from where for the president but now they say that he's and get engaged in a cover-up of what of innocent I mean come on it's absolutely ridiculous efforts to control during that proceeding was what they were looking at but now it'll come to Congress and I make you this promise yeah this must end it has to it has to be ended already says he's done we'll figure out what Congress is gonna do other issues are gonna come up now well they're going to matter I'll stay the border it's gonna be the economy if they betrayed the campaign has a place on this show you are welcome to come on in all the positions of the campaign whenever you want our position that in fact that they don't want to focus on the results in the economic boom record low unemployment arrival issues so they want to talk about crimes that never happened and now they want to pay you know pivot to cover-up I don't see that situation as you do and that's okay because we will always disagree on this show decently and you always have a place to make your case oh you've been so nice no no just just feel we have known each other a long time that's true exactly yeah always tough affair and you always have an opportunity thank you good to have you here thank you kimberly guilfoyle right now it is super important to police the truth we have to because it's the only thing we have to go on especially on matters related to the Muller probe there was a raft of attacks by this president today what is the truth do to them does it help them swim or sink we'll see next check gotta do it the President of the United States said a lot of things today about issues that matter and here we call out balls and strikes take a listen yes I think he is a total conflicted person I think Buller is a true never jumper be somebody that dislikes Donald Trump be somebody that didn't get a job that he requested that he wanted very badly all right now here are the facts the DOJ found no conflict Congress never raised it the White House didn't raise it in fact Steve Bannon remember him he said the idea of Muller having a conflict was ridiculous Muller did not ask to be this president's FBI director it was the other way around he was asked to come in for an interview material distinction there when POTUS claims unprecedented cooperation you heard it in the interview but let's say iterate it now what mr. Muller wanted most and needed most he never got from this president the president never answered a single question in person and his lawyer drit announces never even touched the issue of obstruction that's why the written answers were found to be inadequate by the Muller team some campaign folks deleted relevant communications not helpful others were convicted of lying to investigators not helpful even when this president then stumbled today in a tweet into what appeared to be an admission of the basic threat that Russia attacked our election and did so to help him he then had to backpedal to this Russia didn't help me at all Russia if anything I think help the other side we know Russia not only tried to help the Trump campaign and only the Trump campaign but the Trump campaign expected to benefit from its interference even the republican-led Senate Intel committee found quote there was no Pro Clinton content on Facebook or Instagram as part of the Russian influence campaign and when POTUS claims Muller didn't find obstruction either look let's call it what it is that's a lie Muller repeatedly pointed to substantial evidence that this president tried to obstruct justice this is why mr. Muller said this if we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime we would have said so and they didn't say so so now Congress has to figure out what to say about it all and you must decide what matters to you and how much but let's start with the facts all right I want to get back to the president's new terror threat from Mexico for the purpose of halting illegal immigration it feels muscular right it sounds strong but whose have been hurt more them or us that is the making of a great debate with these two lookers here next taking news 5% tariffs on all goods from Mexico unless it stops the flow of illegal immigrants to the United States the president says it'll start a week from Monday and it increases 5% every month up to 25% by OpCo October it sounds muy fuerte very strong but whom will it squeeze US or Mexico sounds like the making of a great debate Karen Finney Rick Santorum let's get after it Rick make the case well what the the Mexicans are responsible for the surge at the border I mean that most of the people coming across the border as you know or folks coming from from Guatemala Honduras El Salvador and and they're traveling through Mexico and Mexico was giving them you know the ability to cross that border the southern border of Mexico allowing them to go through their country and then piling up on our border that I mean it's clearly their fault and and they they can do something about it give president credit he's tried he's negotiated until recently with Guatemala and he's working with those countries to try to stem the tide but I think the frustration the president has shown is is is reasonable and and the Mexicans need to respond and I think the president's put the put the put the hammer down okay so Karen fair point about Mexico's fix on the problem I would push back on the idea that the president has worked with Guatemala he threatened to pull funds from them but he has had the DHS Acting Secretary go down there and he did have the DHS secretary before go Pompeo stride so they were trying to do some whether or not the president was aiding those efforts or not but what is your problem with the tariffs well for starter I mean there's two things number one so essentially what you're saying to Mexico is that if if someone is coming from Latin America and they're try and they say to you at the border in Mexico I'm coming to apply for refugee status in the United States of America are we really asking Mexico to engage in our foreign policy to make determinations about who should or shouldn't be here should have the ability to apply for refugee status I don't think just blaming Mexico I think that's overly simplistic secondly I think the tariffs mean you know the president has been in trying to tout this economy right he's trying to tout this trade deal that he's gotten with Mexico in Canada and I think these tariffs will absolutely damage his ability to claim a success in that area and then third the thing I would say is that as with the tariffs were already seeing that are in place it is going to hurt American businesses there are always these unintended consequences and so I think we need to be concerned about all three of those all right I'm not crazy about the first one because Mexico is a sovereign nation and when people come to their border and say they want to go somewhere it doesn't matter where they want to go international law says they should be claiming asylum there so they have the ability to speak on the second and third points Rick I don't want to pay any more for stuff I got to teenagers you know I got a family that buys tough tariffs hit you and me they don't hurt that country and Mexico sells us a lot of stuff that we want and need you're worried about this messing with the economy well first on the first part I would agree if someone from Mexico shows up at the border and says I want to go to Canada we don't say all come on in and that's just that's just not what a country does so that that's a legitimate one on the point of look there's a legitimate argument for people to say that we shouldn't be using tariffs as a as a tool to try to get our way in trade or in this case with respect to immigration but I will tell you this that we have for the first time see the Chinese come really seriously to the table and we've seen the president be very tough on them and and you know and on an issue that is vitally important which is them stealing our technology in the roads tech now gee and in the present yes he's not banging them on that yet I'm with you about China but he's not banging them on the IT stuff yet and the tariffs we're putting billions into our servers 3 I feel the cost it's the principle reason that that the the administration has not gone forward with the deal is because the Chinese have backed away from from doing what the world not just the United States that was trying to do and they're not in doing what we want them and it was their way of tariffs that are hurting the farmers they are hurting some of our people here that's true but but it is hurting China far far worse than it's hurting the United States and and China is not in as good an economic shape as the United States is so the penalties are much harsher on the Chinese and the long term benefit to farmers and everybody else by keeping our technological advantage and and keeping China and making China live by the laws that the rest of the world has to with respect intellectual property I Kendall is well worth the short-term pain so let's end on this Karen better solution what would make a better fix at the border how about well I think actually we need to go back to a policy that we had that was actually starting to work which is a program of aid to those countries I heard you talking about it earlier in this hour and in some ways a way to try to help the conditions in those countries so that people aren't actually coming here yeah you look look Rick what's that what's the plus minus plus minus is it feels strong I'm gonna punish you if you don't do what I want but what have we all learned is Palance of parents in my case a constantly failing parent which is when you catch them doing something right when you reward the good behavior behavior changes faster than when you take punitive measures and aren't you concerned we're gonna see that with Mexico they're gonna muscle up they're gonna knuckle up they got a new administration there that are not predisposed to being friendly to this president is he giving them entree to get into a fight that we don't need to have look I think the president this isn't the first time the president has talked to Mexico about dealing with this problem and and as we see as the price as the crisis that the border continues to escalate they're not doing anything about it and it's at some point you've got us you've got to bring the hammer down and I think that's what the president's decided to do all right I'm gonna leave it there I appreciate it very much from both of you look this is going to evolve if they actually go into effect we'll start to see the effect that they have and then we got to talk about this more because look none of this is helping those kids they're still not getting the resources that they need on the border the kids still don't have the right kinds of places to stay they still don't have the medical staff they need the problem continues Karen Rick thank you for quick work on breaking news so when it comes to impeachment mr. Beto O'Rourke tells me his former colleagues they have no choice they must why must why now why the urgency he's going to explain to you and he says this president is the problem on the border he has a plan to turn it around let's see how he makes the case let's get after it big night new development tariffs on Mexico until it stops the flow of people at the southern border that's what this president wants to do Beto O'Rourke says this president is the real problem with our immigration system and he has his own plan to offer you question is will it help Beto O'Rourke gain the traction he sorely needs in the crowded Democratic race he joins us for an exclusive interview on prime time and let's start with the polls better O'Rourke thank you for joining us on primetime thanks for having me on all right so let's look at the polls from your perspective when you look at the men and women who are above you what do you think they have or what are they doing that you're not I don't know you know our fortunes will rise and fall in the months to come before the first caucus in Iowa in the first primary in New Hampshire you all had a hole a couple of weeks ago that had me beating Trump by a greater margin than any other Democratic contender who knows what that means this far out but what I have been doing showing up in these different states in the different communities within them and not writing anybody off based on how big or small their town is not taking anyone for granted based on their party affiliation but just listening and learning from them and incorporating what I hear into this campaign that feels right to me politics and then policy in terms of what we saw as an impact from mr. Muller yesterday there's more energy around certain Democrats saying now is the time we know what we need to know it's time to start impeachment inquiry or proceedings whatever your your choice is you're one of those people my question to you why the rush down impeachment when it comes with political risk there's no rush this has been a very sober deliberate process more than 300 pages in the Moller report and then the only public comments from the principal investigator the special counsel robert muller yesterday he talked about the fact that he could not clear the president from any implication that he had committed a crime says that the criminal justice system is not the appropriate venue in which to try but there are there are alternatives under the Constitution Nancy Pelosi says this in terms of these calls for what you're saying impeach right now here's her response we won't be swayed by a few people who think one way or another who are running for president as much as I respect all of them and they had the freedom to be for impeachment we have the responsibility to get a result for the American people a result for the American people see that's what I'm talking about in terms of political risk I think the two thirds of your party 67 or so percent who say we want impeachment they mean removal and I don't think they're gonna be able to give that to those people so result what does result mean to you yeah results means that we have the facts and the truth and real accountability and justice for what happened to our country we were attacked by a foreign power in 2016 an attack that was invited by the the candidate who is now our president an investigation into that TAC attack was obstructed by this president unfortunately the House of Representatives today has stalled in their pursuit of these facts in the truth only impeachment gives them the leverage and the mechanism necessary for us to know exactly what has happened and who is responsible for that and I understand it is politically difficult and challenging and I have all the respect in the world for Speaker Pelosi and I know that she will get to the right decision on this but our our country is depending on it and that's why I bring this urgency to this issue all right now speaking of urgent issues let's talk about immigration looking at your plan the better o'rourke immigration plan pathway to citizenship reuniting separated families rescinding travel bans stopping work on the border wall boosting staffing to expand inspections investing five billion dollars in the northern triangle let me ask you why do you need to stop work on the border wall you know that the acting head of the DHS who ran CBP has been in it for a long time mr. McLennan he and others on the border say we need it we need the physical border it's not immoral and it helps us funnel people to the right places of entry it keeps people why stop the work because what kevin mchale inan is doing what President Trump is doing this administration they are creating chaos on the border kevin mchale enan has presided over an agency that has seen the deaths of six children just in the last year that were within their custody the more than 600 miles of walls that we already have have produced the deaths of thousands of migrants who are just attempting to join their families or find work or flee persecution in some of the deadliest countries on the face of the planet today I don't know you may have information I don't I don't have any information that the men and women who were watching these kids are responsible for their deaths what I've seen come out in the reporting and the action reports is that they are overwhelmed with need maca Lenin Nielson before him they were begging people in Congress when you were there begging for help they didn't get it they got half the money they asked for yes it was four hundred and eighty million dollars yes they spent it yes they have to be accountable but they're overwhelmed and one of the things that comes up is capacity and I see boosting staffing expand inspections they don't have the capacity beto they need help the Democrats aren't given it the Republicans aren't giving it the president isn't given it in fact I remember when you stood outside that facility Tadeo facility and said how you got closed this but now they don't have the beds they don't have anywhere to put the kids what do you do about that yeah so first of all I'm grateful to you for reporting from the border and seeing this with your own eyes and and one of the things that we know from living on the border is that these families do not belong in detention they pose no risk to this country and in fact if we implement something that we call for in our plan the family case management program for a fraction of the cost and at no risk to our communities we can guarantee that these families show up to their court dates meet their appointments with ice officials and follow our laws here's my question to you maybe have some better insight on this I see such opportunity for everybody and what's happening on the border right now the president's got his emergency deck raishin you and I could spend an hour arguing whether or not it was a righteous use of that statute but he has it he's not dipping in for those pockets to help with this emergency need he says the Democrats won't give me the rule changes this is about emergency help for this capacity and flow Beto they need help now to process you can't just let people into the country you have to process them you have to deal with their medical needs you have to have a place to keep them all you do that they're begging for it the Democrats aren't giving it either why not why don't they step into the void I don't know if I agree with the premise of your question I think Democrats are there to meet legitimate concerns and needs whether it's taking care of those asylum seekers or ensuring that we're following our own asylum laws they're not giving an allegiance that I need for the emergency situation that's what I'm saying well DHS is using a program of metering where they're actually rejecting these asylum seekers at the ports of entry forcing them to try to cross in between the ports of entry where they then arrest them put them in cages in some case Chris detention cost 300 bucks a night family case management is $36 a day and it's got a hundred percent show rate in the immigration courts to make sure that these asylum seekers are following our laws I still think that this debate about what to do with the big issues Asylum family reunification the family separation is the Flores settlement they're all legit Beto they all have to be argued out negotiated no question but this emergency crisis these six kids I can't believe it's not 60 this month and next month are going to be the worst flow that they have to deal with and I don't get why nobody's speeding them money to help get them accommodations and medical care if just medical care why is it that being rushed to them I agree with you and and maybe this is something that Republicans and Democrats alike can agree upon that we need to be there to make sure that we don't lose the lives of any more children who are within our custody and our care that we meet this challenge for those families and do so while we follow our own asylum laws that's that's all done asking us to do better O'Rourke I appreciate you getting deep into these issues exchanging your ideas for the audience they're always come here to do exactly that thank you very much I'm grateful now in fairness to bid Oh Oh Roarke he's not in Congress right now but just to be very clear they all say they want to do the right thing by the kids and protect the kids but they're not doing it do you understand there is no measure being offered up by anybody right now that is specifically tailored to fix this need they're all adding other things that's fine but it's not how you deal with an emergency and we must stay on it together all right speaking of together they are lightning rods these two in Congress they're about as far apart on the political spectrum I think as you can get what is bringing Alexandria Ocasio Cortez and Ted Cruz together D lemon on the rare and surprising thing we're seeing in congressman next odd couple on Capitol Hill it all started with this liberal congresswoman Alexandria Acacio Cortez reaching out to conservative Senator Ted Cruz on Twitter with a deal let's work together on a bill banning former members of Congress from becoming lobbyists great idea she says just a clean bill no snuck in clauses no poison pills he responds within minutes you're on now she could have picked up the phone but this is how they do it the kids these days on Twitter it's a rare show of bipartisanship and other lawmakers from the left and right are jumping on and D lemon I love it I love reaching across because you know they got nothing to do with each other ideologically right forget about Senate in house and I love the concept they're like yes I mean you've been in Congress never ever be a lobbyist you should be barred they are an odd couple too you would be Oscar I would be fuel I was gonna say so Felix Unger was it Oscar Madison was it Madison Felix oh yeah I would be Felix you would be Oscar you are messy I am meat you eat poorly I eat well Chris yes sir you hurt you are a mess come on now don't even try emotionally yeah I am a mess psychologically I am flawed yeah I think it's a great idea I love it I love everything about it finally finally and I you know the same thing when I was reading up on this because I knew you know we'd be talking about it I said doesn't anybody pick up the phone and call or can't they email I can't they have like their assistant or somebody like say hey why don't we actually talk on the phone and establish some sort of real relationship you know what I'll take it right that they can do it right 100% and I think look I think this is her mo you know she likes to create event politics and she does that interestingly she's not a big interview seeker but she does try to create these organic events I'm not gonna mess with the mo on this to bar these people if you don't get money out of the game you're never going to change the game there's only one other thing that would matter more to me it's just much less likely this they can get done term limits if you could get term limits done it would your political culture for the term limits is nice term limits barring people from becoming lobbyists and fixing the whole gerrymandering thing oh oh that's a given but that's at the state level but but you would still even if you could just do it you would still fix well I shouldn't say you would fix the entire process but you would change the process for the better for everyone for the betterment of the country decided that way speaking of odd couples you knows I mean he's gonna take he's stealing your shine he's trying to take our cool relationship you know this whole bromance thing that we supposedly has it's all when you want it's all right I call I called professional relationship John Kasich is on John Kasich is my new bud we talk all the time I talked to him about you he's not a big fan well that's not what he says maybe to you that's as somebody says no but seriously John Kasich listen John Kasich and I are like you we come from different parts of the world we come from different backgrounds but I love talking to him because as you say your phrase we test each other mm-hmm right and at the end of the conversation we're gonna remain friends even if we disagree and what I like is that it's not always a Ana grief vest so he's gonna be on we're gonna talk about all the issues that are happening in Washington and the president's temper tantrum how he feels about the mulher speaking out and also c'mon Belle's gonna come on to talk about Steve King now his latest issue when it comes to race and about different cultures contributing that they don't contribute equally to American society will discuss yeah I know that is an eye roll I'm with you on that I don't know where he had to go after he said you can't keep going with other people's babies and the size of cantaloupes you know the calf cantaloupe calves oh all right I'll see you in a little bit my friend this actually will be on after the Town Hall remember that a hundred percent see you buddy all right buddy all right it's a hoax now you know who says that right it's one of the president's favorite phrases it's so ironic though because he peddles hoaxes constantly it is as if our president is almost allergic to the truth and I hate that I want him to do better this isn't about criticism and I see a moment I see an opportunity and I see an argument