>>CHUCK TODD STARTS NOW WITH “MTV DAILY.” “MTV DAILY.”>>WELCOME TO THURSDAY.>>WELCOME TO THURSDAY. IT IS “MEET THE PRESS DAILY.” IT IS “MEET THE PRESS DAILY.” I AM CHUCK TODD HERE IN I AM CHUCK TODD HERE IN WASHINGTON. WASHINGTON. I WILL SAY THIS LIGHTLY. I WILL SAY THIS LIGHTLY. LET’S BE FRANK, THE NATIONAL LET’S BE FRANK, THE NATIONAL NIGHTMARE IS UPON US. NIGHTMARE IS UPON US. WE BEGIN TONIGHT WSITH A SERIES WE BEGIN TONIGHT WSITH A SERIES ADMISSIONS OF THE PRESIDENT. ADMISSIONS OF THE PRESIDENT. REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN SILENT ON REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN SILENT ON WHAT WE HAVE SEEN FROM THE WHAT WE HAVE SEEN FROM THE PRESIDENT. PRESIDENT. HE CALLED ON TWO FOREIGN HE CALLED ON TWO FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS TO INTERFERE IN THE GOVERNMENTS TO INTERFERE IN THE ELECTION BY INVESTIGATING ON HIS ELECTION BY INVESTIGATING ON HIS 2020 RIVAL. 2020 RIVAL.>>WHAT ARE YOU HOPING –>>WHAT ARE YOU HOPING –>>WELL, I WOULD THINK IF THEY>>WELL, I WOULD THINK IF THEY WERE HONEST ABOUT IT, THEY WOULD WERE HONEST ABOUT IT, THEY WOULD START A MAJOR INVESTIGATION INTO START A MAJOR INVESTIGATION INTO BIDEN. BIDEN. IT IS A SIMPLE ANSWER. IT IS A SIMPLE ANSWER. THEY SHOULD INVESTIGATE THE THEY SHOULD INVESTIGATE THE BIDENS BECAUSE HOW DOES A BIDENS BECAUSE HOW DOES A COMPANY THAT’S NEWLY FORMED AND COMPANY THAT’S NEWLY FORMED AND ALL THESE COMPANIES THAT YOU ALL THESE COMPANIES THAT YOU LOOK AT AND BY THE WAY LIKE LOOK AT AND BY THE WAY LIKE WISE, CHINA SHOULD START AN WISE, CHINA SHOULD START AN INVESTIGATION INTO THE BIDENS INVESTIGATION INTO THE BIDENS BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED IN CHINA BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED IN CHINA IS JUST ABOUT AS BAD AS WHAT IS JUST ABOUT AS BAD AS WHAT HAPPENED WITH UKRAINE. HAPPENED WITH UKRAINE. SO I WOULD SAY PRESIDENT SO I WOULD SAY PRESIDENT ZELENSKY, IF IT WERE ME, ILL ZELENSKY, IF IT WERE ME, ILL RECOMMEND THEY START AN RECOMMEND THEY START AN INVESTIGATION INTO THE BIDENS INVESTIGATION INTO THE BIDENS BECAUSE NOBODY HAS ANY DOUBT BECAUSE NOBODY HAS ANY DOUBT THAT THEY WERE NOT CROOKED. THAT THEY WERE NOT CROOKED. THAT WAS THE CROOKED DEAL 100%. THAT WAS THE CROOKED DEAL 100%.>>SO WHAT YOU JUST HEARD IS A>>SO WHAT YOU JUST HEARD IS A PUBLIC ADMISSION OF THE PUBLIC ADMISSION OF THE ALLEGATIONS OF THE HEART OF THE ALLEGATIONS OF THE HEART OF THE HOUSE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY AND AT HOUSE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY AND AT THE HEART OF THE WHISTLEBLOWER’S THE HEART OF THE WHISTLEBLOWER’S COMPLAINT. COMPLAINT. DONALD TRUMP IS USING THE POWER DONALD TRUMP IS USING THE POWER OF HIS OFFICE TO SOLICIT OF HIS OFFICE TO SOLICIT APPEARANCE — THIS IS NOT APPEARANCE — THIS IS NOT HEARSAY OR A WHISTLEBLOWER’S HEARSAY OR A WHISTLEBLOWER’S COMPLAINT OR A MEMORYANDUM. COMPLAINT OR A MEMORYANDUM. YOU HEARD THE PRESIDENT DID IT YOU HEARD THE PRESIDENT DID IT ALONE. ALONE. AND YET THERE HAS BEEN VIRTUALLY AND YET THERE HAS BEEN VIRTUALLY NO CONDEMNATION FOR THE NO CONDEMNATION FOR THE PRESIDENT’S PARTY AT ALL FOR PRESIDENT’S PARTY AT ALL FOR THIS REMARK WHICH WAS REMARKABLE THIS REMARK WHICH WAS REMARKABLE CONSIDERING THE PRESIDENT. CONSIDERING THE PRESIDENT. THE LASTING DAMAGE IT WOULD DO THE LASTING DAMAGE IT WOULD DO TO OUR DEMOCRACY. TO OUR DEMOCRACY. IT IS TOUGH TO SAY LIGHTLY. IT IS TOUGH TO SAY LIGHTLY. THIS IS MOMENT WE ARE BACK. THIS IS MOMENT WE ARE BACK. JOINING ME, PETER ALEXANDER, OUR JOINING ME, PETER ALEXANDER, OUR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT, GEOFF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT, GEOFF BENNETT ON CAPITOL HILL. BENNETT ON CAPITOL HILL. PETER, I DON’T KNOW IF PEOPLE PETER, I DON’T KNOW IF PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE GRAVITY OF WHAT UNDERSTAND THE GRAVITY OF WHAT THE PRESIDENT DID. THE PRESIDENT DID. THE PRESIDENT ANSWERED JEFF THE PRESIDENT ANSWERED JEFF MASON’S QUESTION YESTERDAY. MASON’S QUESTION YESTERDAY. HE DID SO IN A PUBLIC WAY, IS HE DID SO IN A PUBLIC WAY, IS ANYBODY INSIDE THAT WHITE HOUSE ANYBODY INSIDE THAT WHITE HOUSE REALIZE THAT THE PRESIDENT REALIZE THAT THE PRESIDENT ESSENTIALLY OWNED UP TO WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY OWNED UP TO WHAT IS BEING INVESTIGATED FOR? BEING INVESTIGATED FOR?>>WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO>>WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO A WHITE HOUSE SPEAK TO A WHITE HOUSE SPOKESPERSON. SPOKESPERSON. WE SAID WHY IS IT PROPER FOR THE WE SAID WHY IS IT PROPER FOR THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO CALL ON CHINA TO INVESTIGATE TO CALL ON CHINA TO INVESTIGATE A DOMESTIC POLITICAL RIVAL, THAT A DOMESTIC POLITICAL RIVAL, THAT SPOKESPERSON’S RESPONSE TO US, SPOKESPERSON’S RESPONSE TO US, NO COMMENT. NO COMMENT. TO PUT THIS IN SIMPLE TERMS TO PUT THIS IN SIMPLE TERMS RIGHT NOW FACING AN IMPEACHMENT RIGHT NOW FACING AN IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY QUIETLY URGING A FOREIGN INQUIRY QUIETLY URGING A FOREIGN LEADER TO INVESTIGATE JOE BIDEN, LEADER TO INVESTIGATE JOE BIDEN, THE PRESIDENT TODAY PUBLICLY THE PRESIDENT TODAY PUBLICLY URGED ANOTHER FOREIGN POWER TO URGED ANOTHER FOREIGN POWER TO INVESTIGATE JOE BIDEN. INVESTIGATE JOE BIDEN. HE ONLY AMPLIFIES THIS ISSUE HE ONLY AMPLIFIES THIS ISSUE THAT EXISTED TO THIS POINT. THAT EXISTED TO THIS POINT. THE BACKDROP OF ALL THIS AS IT THE BACKDROP OF ALL THIS AS IT RELATES TO CHINA, CHUCK, THE RELATES TO CHINA, CHUCK, THE CHINESE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF CHINESE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS TRADE WAR WITH PRESIDENT THIS TRADE WAR WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP AND IN ADVANCE TO THOSE TRUMP AND IN ADVANCE TO THOSE COMMENTS, HE BROUGHT UP CHINA COMMENTS, HE BROUGHT UP CHINA UNPROMPTED. UNPROMPTED.>>IS HE CONNECTING THE TWO,>>IS HE CONNECTING THE TWO, PETER? PETER? I GOT THE IMPRESSION HE WAS I GOT THE IMPRESSION HE WAS ESSENTIALLY SAYING IF YOU ESSENTIALLY SAYING IF YOU DON’T — IF YOU WANT A BETTER DON’T — IF YOU WANT A BETTER DEAL FOR ME ON TRADE, YOU BETTER DEAL FOR ME ON TRADE, YOU BETTER HELP INVESTIGATE JOE BIDEN. HELP INVESTIGATE JOE BIDEN. HE SEEMS TO IMPLY A QUID PRO HE SEEMS TO IMPLY A QUID PRO QUO. QUO.>>ON UKRAINE, THE QUID PRO QUO>>ON UKRAINE, THE QUID PRO QUO THAT PEOPLE ARE FOCUSING ON, THAT PEOPLE ARE FOCUSING ON, HEY, I AM WITHHOLDING MILITARY HEY, I AM WITHHOLDING MILITARY ASSISTANCE, IF YOU WANT MORE, I ASSISTANCE, IF YOU WANT MORE, I NEED YOU TO INVESTIGATE JOE NEED YOU TO INVESTIGATE JOE BIDEN. BIDEN. THE SENTENCE THAT PROCEEDED THIS THE SENTENCE THAT PROCEEDED THIS WAS THE PRESIDENT SAYING I HAVE WAS THE PRESIDENT SAYING I HAVE A LOT OF OPTIONS ON CHINA BUT IF A LOT OF OPTIONS ON CHINA BUT IF THEY DON’T DO WHAT WE WANT, WE THEY DON’T DO WHAT WE WANT, WE HAVE TREMENDOUS POWER, CHUCK, HAVE TREMENDOUS POWER, CHUCK, THE BOTTOM LINE IS — IT WAS A THE BOTTOM LINE IS — IT WAS A REMARKABLE SCENE OUT THERE ON REMARKABLE SCENE OUT THERE ON THE LAWN. THE LAWN. WE WERE POSING THE QUESTIONS TO WE WERE POSING THE QUESTIONS TO THEM. THEM. THE QUESTION THAT JEFF MASON THE QUESTION THAT JEFF MASON TRIED TO GET ANSWERED. TRIED TO GET ANSWERED. THOSE WE ARE HEARING THAT HE THOSE WE ARE HEARING THAT HE ONLY MADE THE SITUATION MUCH ONLY MADE THE SITUATION MUCH WORSE. WORSE.>>AND YET IT DOES FEEL LIKE>>AND YET IT DOES FEEL LIKE LIKE — DOES HE BELIEVE THAT IF LIKE — DOES HE BELIEVE THAT IF HE JUST SAYS IT PUBLICLY, IT HE JUST SAYS IT PUBLICLY, IT MAKES IT SEEM LESS SINISTER? MAKES IT SEEM LESS SINISTER?>>THIS IS THE THIRD TIME IN>>THIS IS THE THIRD TIME IN FOUR YEARS THAT THE PRESIDENT FOUR YEARS THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS PUBLICLY SORT OF AS NOW — HAS PUBLICLY SORT OF AS NOW –>>PUBLICLY LOBBIED.>>PUBLICLY LOBBIED.>>YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT.>>YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT.>>RUSSIA OF JULY OF 2017, JULY>>RUSSIA OF JULY OF 2017, JULY OF THIS YEAR, THAT WAS A PRIVATE OF THIS YEAR, THAT WAS A PRIVATE CALL. CALL. HE SAID IT PUBLICLY THAT HE HE SAID IT PUBLICLY THAT HE WANTS UKRAINE HELP AND CALLING WANTS UKRAINE HELP AND CALLING ON CHINA TO DO IT. ON CHINA TO DO IT. YOU RECOGNIZE DURING THE YOU RECOGNIZE DURING THE RUSSIA’S INVESTIGATION, THE RUSSIA’S INVESTIGATION, THE PRESIDENT’S ARGUMENT WAS NO PRESIDENT’S ARGUMENT WAS NO COLLUSION HERE. COLLUSION HERE. THE EYES OF HIS CRITICS AND THE THE EYES OF HIS CRITICS AND THE EYES OF A LOT OF INDEPENDENT EYES OF A LOT OF INDEPENDENT VIEWERS RIGHT NOW IS SAYING HEY, VIEWERS RIGHT NOW IS SAYING HEY, I AM IN EFFECT COLLUDING FOR I AM IN EFFECT COLLUDING FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE. EVERYBODY TO SEE. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? IT?>>.>>.>>LET ME GO OVER TO GEOFF>>LET ME GO OVER TO GEOFF BENNETT. BENNETT. THE LOUDEST SOUND MADE TODAY WAS THE LOUDEST SOUND MADE TODAY WAS THE SILENCE OF ANY REPUBLICAN THE SILENCE OF ANY REPUBLICAN CONDEMNATION OF THE PRESIDENT CONDEMNATION OF THE PRESIDENT CALL ON CHIENACHINA, OF ALL COUN CALL ON CHIENACHINA, OF ALL COUN CHINA WHO GOT A GREAT TRACK CHINA WHO GOT A GREAT TRACK RECORD ON THE RULE OF LAW TO BE RECORD ON THE RULE OF LAW TO BE AN INVESTIGATIVE BODY HERE. AN INVESTIGATIVE BODY HERE. WHAT KIND OF ANSWERS ARE YOU WHAT KIND OF ANSWERS ARE YOU GETTING OFF THE RECORD? GETTING OFF THE RECORD?>>THE SAME ANSWER WE ARE>>THE SAME ANSWER WE ARE GETTING ON THE RECORD, CHUCK. GETTING ON THE RECORD, CHUCK. WHAT YOU HEAR FROM REPUBLICANS WHAT YOU HEAR FROM REPUBLICANS SPECIFICALLY ON THE IMPEACHMENT SPECIFICALLY ON THE IMPEACHMENT ISSUE IS NOT A DEFENSE OF THE ISSUE IS NOT A DEFENSE OF THE PRESIDENT’S LANGUAGE OR THE PRESIDENT’S LANGUAGE OR THE RHETORIC. RHETORIC. WHAT YOU HEAR IS AN ATTACK OF WHAT YOU HEAR IS AN ATTACK OF THE PROCESS OF THE MESSENGER. THE PROCESS OF THE MESSENGER. THAT IS SORT OF INSTRUCTIVE WHAT THAT IS SORT OF INSTRUCTIVE WHAT IN SOME CASES KILLING HIS PLIT IN SOME CASES KILLING HIS PLIT POLITICAL POLITICAL POLITICAL COMPONENT, I THINK ONE POLITICAL COMPONENT, I THINK ONE MAY ONLY LOOK FURTHER THAN THE MAY ONLY LOOK FURTHER THAN THE DIFFERENT AND DIVERGENT PHASE OF DIFFERENT AND DIVERGENT PHASE OF LINDSEY GRAHAM AND JEFF FLAKE. LINDSEY GRAHAM AND JEFF FLAKE. BOTH MEN WERE SENATORS WHEN BOTH MEN WERE SENATORS WHEN DONALD TRUMP WAS ELECTED. DONALD TRUMP WAS ELECTED. LINDSEY GRAHAM TWEETED IF DONALD LINDSEY GRAHAM TWEETED IF DONALD TRUMP WERE OUR NOMINEE, WE’LL BE TRUMP WERE OUR NOMINEE, WE’LL BE DESTROYED AND WELL DESERVED. DESTROYED AND WELL DESERVED. AFTER HE WAS ELECTED, LINDSEY AFTER HE WAS ELECTED, LINDSEY GRAHAM BECAME TRUMP’S BEST GRAHAM BECAME TRUMP’S BEST FRIEND, HIS GOLFING PARTNER AND FRIEND, HIS GOLFING PARTNER AND JEFF FLAKE WAS AN OPPONENT OF JEFF FLAKE WAS AN OPPONENT OF HIS. HIS. JEFF FLAKE DECIDED HE COULD NOT JEFF FLAKE DECIDED HE COULD NOT WIN WITHOUT COZYING UP TO DONALD WIN WITHOUT COZYING UP TO DONALD TRUMP. TRUMP. THAT’S THE END OF HIS CAREER THAT’S THE END OF HIS CAREER HERE IN THE SENATE. HERE IN THE SENATE. LINDSEY GRAHAM TODAY, HIS LINDSEY GRAHAM TODAY, HIS APPROVAL NUMBER IN THE APPROVAL NUMBER IN THE REPUBLICANS PARTY IN SOUTH REPUBLICANS PARTY IN SOUTH CAROLINE HAVE NEVER BEEN HIGHER. CAROLINE HAVE NEVER BEEN HIGHER. WE ARE NOT GOING TO SEE ANYTHING WE ARE NOT GOING TO SEE ANYTHING DIFFERENT FROM REPUBLICAN DIFFERENT FROM REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS ON HOW THEY RESPOND TO LAWMAKERS ON HOW THEY RESPOND TO PRESIDENT TRUMP. PRESIDENT TRUMP.>>THIS IS NOT A FACTION OF THE>>THIS IS NOT A FACTION OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY NOW. REPUBLICAN PARTY NOW. IT IS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AS IT IT IS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AS IT IS CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTED WITH