JOINING US, THE AUTHOR OF “A GOOD PROVIDER IS ONE WHO LIVES.” GOOD PROVIDER IS ONE WHO LIVES.” THAT BOOK IS SCHEDULED TO BE THAT BOOK IS SCHEDULED TO BE PUBLISHED ON TUESDAY OF THIS PUBLISHED ON TUESDAY OF THIS WEEK. WEEK. JASON IS WITH US BECAUSE HE JASON IS WITH US BECAUSE HE WROTE ONE OF THOSE STEPHEN WROTE ONE OF THOSE STEPHEN MILLER PROFILES I MENTIONED AT MILLER PROFILES I MENTIONED AT THE TOP OF THE SHOW. THE TOP OF THE SHOW. I WANT TO BEGIN WITH THE TRUMP I WANT TO BEGIN WITH THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION’S EFFORTS TO ADMINISTRATION’S EFFORTS TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF IMMIGRANTS LIMIT THE NUMBER OF IMMIGRANTS COMING TO THE U.S., COMING TO THE U.S., KEN CUCCINELLI IS THE ACTING KEN CUCCINELLI IS THE ACTING DIRECTOR OF CITIZENSHIP AND DIRECTOR OF CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION SERVICES. IMMIGRATION SERVICES.>>WE CERTAINLY EXPECT PEOPLE OF>>WE CERTAINLY EXPECT PEOPLE OF ANY INCOME TO BE ABLE TO STAND ANY INCOME TO BE ABLE TO STAND ON THEIR OWN TWO FEET, AND SO IF ON THEIR OWN TWO FEET, AND SO IF PEOPLE ARE NOT ABLE TO BE PEOPLE ARE NOT ABLE TO BE SELF-SUFFICIENT, THEN THIS SELF-SUFFICIENT, THEN THIS NEGATIVE FACTOR IS GOING TO BEAR NEGATIVE FACTOR IS GOING TO BEAR VERY HEAVILY AGAINST THEM IN A VERY HEAVILY AGAINST THEM IN A DECISION ABOUT WHETHER THEY’LL DECISION ABOUT WHETHER THEY’LL BE ABLE TO BECOME A LEGAL BE ABLE TO BECOME A LEGAL PERMANENT RESIDENT. PERMANENT RESIDENT.>>THIS WEEKEND BLOOMBERG NEWS>>THIS WEEKEND BLOOMBERG NEWS IS REPORTING THAT FOR MONTHS IS REPORTING THAT FOR MONTHS STEPHEN MILLER, A HAS BEEN STEPHEN MILLER, A HAS BEEN SPEARHEADING AN EFFORT TO BLOCK SPEARHEADING AN EFFORT TO BLOCK UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS FROM UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS FROM ENROLLING IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS BUT ENROLLING IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS BUT HE CAN’T SEEM TO FIND HIS WAY HE CAN’T SEEM TO FIND HIS WAY AROUND A SUPREME COURT RULING AROUND A SUPREME COURT RULING THAT GUARANTEES ACCESS TO AN THAT GUARANTEES ACCESS TO AN EDUCATION. EDUCATION. HE HAS INFLUENCE ON VIRTUALLY HE HAS INFLUENCE ON VIRTUALLY EVERY ELEMENT OF IMMIGRATION EVERY ELEMENT OF IMMIGRATION POLICY. POLICY. HE HAS GUIDED A SERIES OF POLICY HE HAS GUIDED A SERIES OF POLICY CHANGES TO CRITICS LIKENED TO CHANGES TO CRITICS LIKENED TO BUILDING AN INVISIBLE WALL. BUILDING AN INVISIBLE WALL. LET ME START THERE IF I COULD. LET ME START THERE IF I COULD. I WANT TO DIG INTO THE I WANT TO DIG INTO THE RELATIONSHIP THAT THE PRESIDENT RELATIONSHIP THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS WITH STEPHEN MILLER. HAS WITH STEPHEN MILLER. WE FOCUS ON THE BIG STORIES, WE WE FOCUS ON THE BIG STORIES, WE FOCUS ON THE PHYSICAL WALL. FOCUS ON THE PHYSICAL WALL. HELP US UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT HELP US UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT OF ALL THAT STEPHEN MILLER HAS OF ALL THAT STEPHEN MILLER HAS BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WITHOUT BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WITHOUT REGULAR SCRUTINY, WITHOUT THE REGULAR SCRUTINY, WITHOUT THE PUBLIC EYE. PUBLIC EYE.>>MOST OF THE COVERAGE RECENTLY>>MOST OF THE COVERAGE RECENTLY HAS BEEN ON THE BORDER DISPUTES HAS BEEN ON THE BORDER DISPUTES AND THE PURGES INSIDE THE AND THE PURGES INSIDE THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY, DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY, BUT OUT OF VIEW THE TRUMP BUT OUT OF VIEW THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, OFTEN WITH ADMINISTRATION, OFTEN WITH STEPHEN MILLER’S GUIDANCE, HAS STEPHEN MILLER’S GUIDANCE, HAS BEEN PROM YOU WILL GATING BEEN PROM YOU WILL GATING DOZENS, SCORES OF RULES AND DOZENS, SCORES OF RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT MAKE IT HARDER REGULATIONS THAT MAKE IT HARDER IN MANY CASES FOR LEGAL IN MANY CASES FOR LEGAL IMMIGRANTS TO ENTER THE COUNTRY. IMMIGRANTS TO ENTER THE COUNTRY.>>YOUR PIECE IS ABOUT STEPHEN>>YOUR PIECE IS ABOUT STEPHEN MILLER BUT ALSO WHAT GAVE RISE MILLER BUT ALSO WHAT GAVE RISE TO HIM, IN WHICH HE CAME OF AGE. TO HIM, IN WHICH HE CAME OF AGE. TALK ABOUT THAT AND WHAT’S TALK ABOUT THAT AND WHAT’S HAPPENED TO THE REPUBLICAN HAPPENED TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. PARTY.>>I THINK THERE’S BEEN A LOT OF>>I THINK THERE’S BEEN A LOT OF FOCUS ON HIS PERSONALITY, HIS FOCUS ON HIS PERSONALITY, HIS OFTEN ABRASIVE STATEMENTS, BUT OFTEN ABRASIVE STATEMENTS, BUT STEPHEN MILLER IS THE PRODUCT OF STEPHEN MILLER IS THE PRODUCT OF A LARGER MOVEMENT THAT’S BEEN A LARGER MOVEMENT THAT’S BEEN OPERATING FOR SEVERAL DECADES OPERATING FOR SEVERAL DECADES AND HAS BEEN ABETTED BY SOME AND HAS BEEN ABETTED BY SOME LARGE CHANGES IN POLITICAL LARGE CHANGES IN POLITICAL CONTEXT ARRANGING FROM 9/11 TO CONTEXT ARRANGING FROM 9/11 TO OUTSOURCING WHICH HAS REDUCED OUTSOURCING WHICH HAS REDUCED SUPPORT AMONG BUSINESS INTERESTS SUPPORT AMONG BUSINESS INTERESTS FOR IMMIGRATION IN THE UNITED FOR IMMIGRATION IN THE UNITED STATES TO DEMOGRAPHICS, THE RISE STATES TO DEMOGRAPHICS, THE RISE OF IMMIGRATION ACROSS THE SOUTH, OF IMMIGRATION ACROSS THE SOUTH, THE HEART OF THE GOP. THE HEART OF THE GOP. MILLER IS OFTEN THE FACE OF THE MILLER IS OFTEN THE FACE OF THE MOVEMENT BUT IT’S A MUCH BROADER MOVEMENT BUT IT’S A MUCH BROADER PHENOMENON. PHENOMENON.>>HE’S BEEN PUSHING FOR>>HE’S BEEN PUSHING FOR RESTRICTIONISM. RESTRICTIONISM. YOU LOOK AT THE REPUBLICAN YOU LOOK AT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. PARTY. THERE WAS SYMPATHY FOR THERE WAS SYMPATHY FOR IMMIGRANTS. IMMIGRANTS. THERE WAS FOR A TIME THOUGHT THERE WAS FOR A TIME THOUGHT THAT YOU COULD GET IMMIGRANTS TO THAT YOU COULD GET IMMIGRANTS TO VOTE REPUBLICAN, THEY COULD BE VOTE REPUBLICAN, THEY COULD BE BROUGHT INTO THE FOLD. BROUGHT INTO THE FOLD. THAT WAS THE CASE UNDER THAT WAS THE CASE UNDER PRESIDENT REAGAN, PRESIDENT PRESIDENT REAGAN, PRESIDENT GEORGE H.W. BUSH AND PRESIDENT GEORGE H.W. BUSH AND PRESIDENT BUSH. BUSH. WHAT’S CHANGED IN HELP US WHAT’S CHANGED IN HELP US UNDERSTAND THE WAY THE UNDERSTAND THE WAY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS MOVED REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS MOVED TOWARD RESTRICTIONISM? TOWARD RESTRICTIONISM?>>I WROTE A BOOK CALLED “THE>>I WROTE A BOOK CALLED “THE PURSUIT OF THE AMERICAN DREAM” PURSUIT OF THE AMERICAN DREAM” SO I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS IN THE SO I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS IN THE CONTEXT OF BLACK IMMIGRANTS WHO CONTEXT OF BLACK IMMIGRANTS WHO AT ONE POINT SEEMED RIPE FOR THE AT ONE POINT SEEMED RIPE FOR THE PICKING FOR THE REPUBLICAN PICKING FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. PARTY. THERE’S BEEN A NATIVIST THERE’S BEEN A NATIVIST UNDERCURRENT FOR THE PARTY WHICH UNDERCURRENT FOR THE PARTY WHICH HAS TAPPED INTO THE ANTI-BLACK HAS TAPPED INTO THE ANTI-BLACK WHITE SUPREMACIST ROOTS OF THIS WHITE SUPREMACIST ROOTS OF THIS NATION. NATION. SO AS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY MOVES SO AS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY MOVES IN THAT DIRECTION, AS LYNDON IN THAT DIRECTION, AS LYNDON BAYNES JOHNSON SAID, IF YOU CAN BAYNES JOHNSON SAID, IF YOU CAN CONVINCE THE POOREST WHITE MAN CONVINCE THE POOREST WHITE MAN THAT HE’S BETTER THAN THE THAT HE’S BETTER THAN THE NEGRO — AND NOW YOU CAN INSERT NEGRO — AND NOW YOU CAN INSERT IMMIGRANTS OR MEXICAN — YOU CAN IMMIGRANTS OR MEXICAN — YOU CAN PICK HIS POCKETS ALL DAY LONG. PICK HIS POCKETS ALL DAY LONG. THERE’S THE SCENARIO THAT YOU DO THERE’S THE SCENARIO THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE, NOT BECAUSE OF OUR TAX NOT HAVE, NOT BECAUSE OF OUR TAX POLICIES OR TRADE POLICIES OR POLICIES OR TRADE POLICIES OR THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF THE THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF THE GOVERNMENT, IF YOU DON’T HAVE GOVERNMENT, IF YOU DON’T HAVE THE LIFE THAT YOU WANT OR THE THE LIFE THAT YOU WANT OR THE JOB THAT YOU NEED OR THE HEALTH JOB THAT YOU NEED OR THE HEALTH CARE THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE OR THE CARE THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE OR THE EDUCATION THAT SHOULD BE EDUCATION THAT SHOULD BE PROMISED TO YOU, IT’S NOT PROMISED TO YOU, IT’S NOT BECAUSE OF OUR POLICIES AS BECAUSE OF OUR POLICIES AS REPUBLICANS, IT’S BECAUSE OF REPUBLICANS, IT’S BECAUSE OF THESE IMMIGRANTS WORKING IN THESE IMMIGRANTS WORKING IN POWELLTRY POWELLTRY POULTRY FACTORS OR BLACK POULTRY FACTORS OR BLACK AMERICANS WORKING IN SOMEPLACE AMERICANS WORKING IN SOMEPLACE NOT EVEN IN YOUR OWN STATE. NOT EVEN IN YOUR OWN STATE. WE CONSTANTLY TALK ABOUT THE WE CONSTANTLY TALK ABOUT THE ECONOMICS OF A TRUMP VOTER AND ECONOMICS OF A TRUMP VOTER AND THE ECONOMICS OF THE REPUBLICAN THE ECONOMICS OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND THE ECONOMICS OF PARTY AND THE ECONOMICS OF ANXIETY BUT WE’RE CONSTANTLY ANXIETY BUT WE’RE CONSTANTLY IGNORING THE RACIAL AN AIMUS THA IGNORING THE RACIAL AN AIMUS THA IS THE FOUNDATION OF MOST OF THE IS THE FOUNDATION OF MOST OF THE POLICY THAT’S BEEN PROMULGATED POLICY THAT’S BEEN PROMULGATED FOR THE LAST 15 TO 30 YEARS IN FOR THE LAST 15 TO 30 YEARS IN THAT PARTY. THAT PARTY.>>YOU eENUMERATE HOW MANY>>YOU eENUMERATE HOW MANY INFLUENCE STEPHEN MILLER HAS, INFLUENCE STEPHEN MILLER HAS, FROM THE WORDS THAT THE FROM THE WORDS THAT THE PRESIDENT USES TO THE PRESIDENT USES TO THE REGULATIONS HE PROM YOU WILL REGULATIONS HE PROM YOU WILL GAITS. GAITS. YOU CHART HIS ORIGIN STORY FROM YOU CHART HIS ORIGIN STORY FROM SANTA MONICA TO YOUR ALMA MATER SANTA MONICA TO YOUR ALMA MATER TO DUKE, TO WASHINGTON D.C. TO DUKE, TO WASHINGTON D.C. WHERE HE WORKED FOR MICHELE WHERE HE WORKED FOR MICHELE BACHMANN AND JEFF SESSIONS. BACHMANN AND JEFF SESSIONS. HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW HE CAME HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW HE CAME INTO THE TRUMP FOLD, HOW THIS INTO THE TRUMP FOLD, HOW THIS RELATIONSHIP CAME ABOUT BETWEEN RELATIONSHIP CAME ABOUT BETWEEN HIM AND THE PERSISTENTAND THE PR HIM AND THE PERSISTENTAND THE PR UNITED STATES. UNITED STATES.>>HE WORKED FOR JEFF SESSIONS>>HE WORKED FOR JEFF SESSIONS IN THE SENATE. IN THE SENATE. SENATOR SESSIONS IS ONE OF THE SENATOR SESSIONS IS ONE OF THE MOST ADAMANT OPPONENTS OF MOST ADAMANT OPPONENTS OF IMMIGRATION AND DONALD TRUMP IMMIGRATION AND DONALD TRUMP USED TO TALK TO BREITBART WHEN USED TO TALK TO BREITBART WHEN MILLER WAS TALKING TO BREITBART MILLER WAS TALKING TO BREITBART AS WELL. AS WELL. MILLER TOLD HIS FRIENDS HE MILLER TOLD HIS FRIENDS HE WISHED TRUMP WOULD RUN FOR WISHED TRUMP WOULD RUN FOR PRESIDENT, AND AS SOON AS HE DID PRESIDENT, AND AS SOON AS HE DID MILLER STARTED WORKING BEHIND MILLER STARTED WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES ON THE CAMPAIGN AND THE SCENES ON THE CAMPAIGN AND FORMALLY JOINED HIM. FORMALLY JOINED HIM.>>TIM, HOW WERE THE PRESIDENTS>>TIM, HOW WERE THE PRESIDENTS BELIEFS ON THIS MATTER? BELIEFS ON THIS MATTER? THERE’S BEEN REPORTING ABOUT THE THERE’S BEEN REPORTING ABOUT THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION AND ITS USE TRUMP ORGANIZATION AND ITS USE OF IMMIGRANT LABOR. OF IMMIGRANT LABOR. HOW CLOSELY HELD ARE THE HOW CLOSELY HELD ARE THE PRESIDENT’S BELIEFS WHEN IT PRESIDENT’S BELIEFS WHEN IT COMES TO IMMIGRATION? COMES TO IMMIGRATION? HOW EASILY COULD HE BE SWAYED HOW EASILY COULD HE BE SWAYED ABOUT WHAT STEPHEN MILLER WAS ABOUT WHAT STEPHEN MILLER WAS ESPOUSING AND THESE ESPOUSING AND THESE RESTRICTIONIST POLICIES THAT HE RESTRICTIONIST POLICIES THAT HE WAS BRINGING TO THE PRESIDENT? WAS BRINGING TO THE PRESIDENT?>>I THINK HE’S VERY EASILY>>I THINK HE’S VERY EASILY SWAYED BECAUSE HE DOESN’T HOLD SWAYED BECAUSE HE DOESN’T HOLD ANY POLICY VERY CLOSE TO THE ANY POLICY VERY CLOSE TO THE VEST OR CLOSE TO HIS HEART. VEST OR CLOSE TO HIS HEART. HE’S NOT IN ANY OF THIS FOR HE’S NOT IN ANY OF THIS FOR POLICY. POLICY. HE CAN BE INFLAMMATORY. HE CAN BE INFLAMMATORY. HE CAMPAIGNS ON THESE THINGS BUT HE CAMPAIGNS ON THESE THINGS BUT HE’S NEVER BEEN A STUDENT OF THE HE’S NEVER BEEN A STUDENT OF THE FINER POINTS OF ANY POLICY FINER POINTS OF ANY POLICY INCLUDING IMMIGRATION. INCLUDING IMMIGRATION. AIS YOU NOTE, HE’S HYPOCRITICAL. AIS YOU NOTE, HE’S HYPOCRITICAL. HE RUNS HOTELS AND GOLF COURSES HE RUNS HOTELS AND GOLF COURSES THAT ARE DEPENDENT ON MIGRANT THAT ARE DEPENDENT ON MIGRANT LABOR AND HIS BUSINESSES LABOR AND HIS BUSINESSES WOULDN’T THRIVE WITHOUT THAT. WOULDN’T THRIVE WITHOUT THAT. TWO OF HIS THREE WIVES WERE TWO OF HIS THREE WIVES WERE IMMIGRANTS. IMMIGRANTS. HIS IN-LAWS ARE THE BENEFITS OF HIS IN-LAWS ARE THE BENEFITS OF CHAIN MIGRATION WHICH STEPHEN CHAIN MIGRATION WHICH STEPHEN MILLER HAS RAILED AGAINST. MILLER HAS RAILED AGAINST. YOU HAVE ALL THESE THINGS IN HIS YOU HAVE ALL THESE THINGS IN HIS OWN BACKGROUND THAT DO NOT MAKE OWN BACKGROUND THAT DO NOT MAKE HIM A FERVENT HIM A FERVENT ANTI-IMMIGRATIONIST BUT HE IS A ANTI-IMMIGRATIONIST BUT HE IS A FERVENT POLL UM CYST ABOUT FERVENT POLL UM CYST ABOUT IMMIGRATION. IMMIGRATION. STEPHEN MILLER ANIMATES THE STEPHEN MILLER ANIMATES THE PRESIDENT’S POLICY ON THIS AND I PRESIDENT’S POLICY ON THIS AND I THINK STEPHEN MILLER IS DRIVING THINK STEPHEN MILLER IS DRIVING THE CAR WHEN IT COMES TO THIS, THE CAR WHEN IT COMES TO THIS, NOT TRUMP. NOT TRUMP.>>WHO TAUGHT HIM HOW TO DRIVE>>WHO TAUGHT HIM HOW TO DRIVE THE CAR? THE CAR? THINK OF THE ROLE HE HAS HERE. THINK OF THE ROLE HE HAS HERE. HE’S ESPOUSING THESE VIEWS BUT I HE’S ESPOUSING THESE VIEWS BUT I DON’T BELIEVE HE’S A LAWYER BUT DON’T BELIEVE HE’S A LAWYER BUT HE’S TRYING TO CRAFT A LOT OF HE’S TRYING TO CRAFT A LOT OF POLICY PROPOSALS WITHIN THE POLICY PROPOSALS WITHIN THE GOVERNMENT. GOVERNMENT. YOU LOOK AT THE MUSLIM TRAVEL YOU LOOK AT THE MUSLIM TRAVEL BAN FOR EXAMPLE. BAN FOR EXAMPLE. THAT WAS SOMETHING WHERE THEY THAT WAS SOMETHING WHERE THEY THREW IT AT THE WALL AND SAW THREW IT AT THE WALL AND SAW WHAT STICK. WHAT STICK. IT WAS SOMETHING HE PIEONEERED IT WAS SOMETHING HE PIEONEERED AND TRIED TO WORK ON. AND TRIED TO WORK ON. HOW HAS HE DEVELOPED THIS HOW HAS HE DEVELOPED THIS SHAPING POLICY NOT HAVING A SHAPING POLICY NOT HAVING A LEGAL BACKGROUND? LEGAL BACKGROUND?>>I’M STRUCK BY THE MOMENT THAT>>I’M STRUCK BY THE MOMENT THAT HE HAS BECOME A SURVIVOR IN THE HE HAS BECOME A SURVIVOR IN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. IN ANOTHER ADMINISTRATION HE IN ANOTHER ADMINISTRATION HE WOULD BE ONE OF HALF A DOZEN, A WOULD BE ONE OF HALF A DOZEN, A DOZEN AIDES AND HE WOULD BE DOZEN AIDES AND HE WOULD BE TRYING TO PUSH HIS AGENDA TRYING TO PUSH HIS AGENDA AGAINST OTHER FOLKS. AGAINST OTHER FOLKS. AS TIM WAS MENTIONING, THE AS TIM WAS MENTIONING, THE PRESIDENT DOESN’T SEEM TO HAVE PRESIDENT DOESN’T SEEM TO HAVE HEARTFELT BELIEFS ON THIS ISSUE, HEARTFELT BELIEFS ON THIS ISSUE, ALTHOUGH HE UNDERSTANDS IT AS ALTHOUGH HE UNDERSTANDS IT AS CORE TO HIS POLITICAL IDENTITY CORE TO HIS POLITICAL IDENTITY AND WHAT GOT HIM ELECTED. AND WHAT GOT HIM ELECTED. BUT EVERY TIME HE GETS INTO AN BUT EVERY TIME HE GETS INTO AN ESCALATED MODE, EVEN MILLER ESCALATED MODE, EVEN MILLER SEEMS NERVOUS THAT THE PRESIDENT SEEMS NERVOUS THAT THE PRESIDENT MIGHT STRAY FROM THIS AGENDA. MIGHT STRAY FROM THIS AGENDA. WHAT HE’S MANAGED TO DO IS WHAT HE’S MANAGED TO DO IS ENGINEER A SITUATION WHERE HE ENGINEER A SITUATION WHERE HE CAN SURROUND THE PRESIDENT WITH CAN SURROUND THE PRESIDENT WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE OF THE RESTRICTIONIST MIND-SET AT THOSE RESTRICTIONIST MIND-SET AT THOSE VERY KEY MOMENTS. VERY KEY MOMENTS. WHEN WE SAW THAT THERE MIGHT BE WHEN WE SAW THAT THERE MIGHT BE A YEAR OR SO AGO A DEAL PERHAPS A YEAR OR SO AGO A DEAL PERHAPS ON THE DREAMERS, ALL OF A SUDDEN ON THE DREAMERS, ALL OF A SUDDEN THE PRESIDENT REVERSES HIMSELF THE PRESIDENT REVERSES HIMSELF ALMOST WITHIN THE COURSE OF 24 ALMOST WITHIN THE COURSE OF 24 HOURS. HOURS. MILLER HAS PROVEN TO BE A VERY MILLER HAS PROVEN TO BE A VERY SKILLED BUREAUCRATIC PLAYER. SKILLED BUREAUCRATIC PLAYER. I THINK HE PICKED SOME OF THAT I THINK HE PICKED SOME OF THAT UP FROM HIS TIME IN THE SENATE UP FROM HIS TIME IN THE SENATE BUT ALSO SOME OF IT IS BUT ALSO SOME OF IT IS UNDERSTANDING HE’S NOT A TYPICAL UNDERSTANDING HE’S NOT A TYPICAL CAPITOL HILL PLAYER. CAPITOL HILL PLAYER. I THINK CAPITOL HILL PLAYERS I THINK CAPITOL HILL PLAYERS TEND TO BE CONSENSUS BUILDERS, TEND TO BE CONSENSUS BUILDERS, TEND TO BE TRYING TO CUT A DEAL, TEND TO BE TRYING TO CUT A DEAL, ESPECIALLY AT THE STAFF LEVEL. ESPECIALLY AT THE STAFF LEVEL. HE IS SOMEONE WHO’S MANAGED TO HE IS SOMEONE WHO’S MANAGED TO USE SOCIAL MEDIA, USE SOME OF USE SOCIAL MEDIA, USE SOME OF THE MORE FRINGE FIGURES TO THE MORE FRINGE FIGURES TO INFLUENCE THE SYSTEM IN A WAY INFLUENCE THE SYSTEM IN A WAY THAT MAKES SURE THAT HIS AGENDA